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Note to Self

Journal Entry: Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:49 PM


Be wary of people who make good propositions but lack any morsel of professional composure.

Dear Client-san, you lose any shred of credibility when you say "I have already replaced you" or "I hated your designs" or even "the reason I didn't answer the questions you had is because I was too busy" despite bombarding me with emails everyday, always replying to my emails within minutes (though conveniently glossing over the important questions I had), and after you just spent the last several hours/emails trying to bribe me with tens of thousands of dollars to continue. Lol.

I feel a mountain of relief knowing I freed myself from that ridiculous, unprofessional situation. Have fun falling on your face.



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I realize 99% of you will have no idea what this is in reference to, but people accepting commissions, be careful of who you do business with when it comes to long-term projects. Most of the time it is amateur projects that have no real potential or will be of very little benefit to you (no matter how much they promise it will be "the greatest gift to mankind" or how much profit they will "most definitely make").

Please don't be afraid of commissioners, I rarely encounter 'bad' ones, but it's always to your benefit to be cautious and if something doesn't sit right with you... get yourself out of it asap before you invest any more time/effort.

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dystar Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm apparently one of the 99%, but regardless of that, congratulations on ridding yourself of the stupidity of another! I find blatant ignorance and reckless stupidity is increasingly tolerated, and I'm glad to see someone saying enough is enough to it. I certainly don't mind when people are not knowledgeable, but it's something quite different when they have the capacity to behave better than spoiled children and fail to do so.
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DarkPika-Sama Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yikes! I just saw one of your works and decided to watch you! Then I saw and read your journal and thought, "How can anyone be a dick to you like that, especially when you are a good artist and a nice person?" Kudos to you for getting out when you did and earning yourself a new watcher! :D
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Enzerufishu Nov 12, 2012  Student Digital Artist
What a joke... I'm sad there are ridiculous people like that out there, but happy that there are sensible ones like you too. I'm only 14, and even I know this guy was a complete asshole. Good on you for knowing when to pull out.
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oceantann Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's funny that all the people I've heard who have problems with clients, the clients are usually male.........
All the male clients I've had too; they all talk big and stuff and never live up to what they say they're gonna pay...
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hitsukuya Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Now that you mention it, I've noticed it's usually male clients that are the pain too >_>;; And when they come to you with large projects like this, they always start art really polite/kind but then as soon as you show some interest or give hints that you might say yes, they become real dicks. This guy was like "I'll pay you 26k per year" then "I'll give you a more serious position and pay you 75k", then I say I can't work for him anymore and it's "I'll pay you 80k plus bonuses" pfffffffft. So believeable when I haven't even received a single penny e_e
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What a douche. :iconimadplz: I'm glad you pulled out before it got too far.
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hitsukuya Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh my goodness, me too! I found out even more info on him since I quit and it's a total joke. He made it seem like he had all this experience but he was just a child himself (only 18 years old).
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cherriuki Nov 10, 2012   Traditional Artist
omg is this that person who hired you to do character designs?? D:
fkkkk i know exactly how you feel, cause I'm currently doing one for this chinese client, but he totally lacks professionalism too! He just seems like an ametaur :\ I've been on that project for about 3 months already and I've actually told him I wanted to quit a few times but he kept holding on to me @__@ and there's isn't a contract either... I feel so bad backing out now, so that's why I'm still pushing on orz I really wish I quitted a few months ago lol...OTL*punches his face and throws him to Mars*
He tried to make me draw gar men and copy Bleach's style :iconmingplz: I was like, if you want me to draw, you're gonna have to accept my current style :iconfacepalmplz:

but good job for pulling out early! ;;; *pat pat* I think I need some of your guts looool D:
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hitsukuya Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm, I'm not sure if I should mention the client's name openly so I can note you his name if you like? I really don't want any of my friends to be fooled by him because he comes across as convincing but is actually very inexperienced. I did some more research on him and I'm positive he does not have any actual degree/educational training in animation.

Oh wow, I think if you are miserable working for that person you should not feel worried about quitting. Unless you need that job to make a living, there's no reason you should put yourself through that or feel obligated to him or the success of his project. I can guarantee you he is most likely under-paying you for the work you're doing. After this experience I had, I researched a lot about character designers/graphic artists and found the situation I was in was totally unprofessional and not the proper procedure; also found that many companies will try to subcontract character designers to make a huge profit (e.g. person A pays person B $1000 per character, and person B then goes to person C and pays them $100 to design the character). So yeah... I think if you've been wanting to quit for months you should not be afraid to do it. I admit, I was nervous about it too but the amount of relief I felt after doing it was worth it by far. Most likely you only contact this person through email anyway, so it's not like you ever have to face them!

AND... AHAHAHAH BLEACH STYLE. My person wanted me to draw Avatar style (they pretty much wanted me to totally rip everything avater). Don't you just love it when someone comes to you, saying how much they 'love' your style or how 'perfect' it is for what they want, then you say yes, and suddenly they require you to draw Bleach or Avatar style LOL.
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I completely, completely understand your situation. Unfortunately, I've had more than my fair share of rude, immature, and mean 'commissioners'. However, all of my regular commissioners were very kind and understanding. Ever single time I have been asked to do a project or a massive commission, these people approach me politely then become absolutely rude when I decline to unreasonable conditions, or simply say that I cannot.
I feel bad that you had to experience that, but I'm happy that you turned them down. >u< //hug
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