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Universal healthcare? 

57%
335 deviants said Yes!
25%
146 deviants said Don't care : )
17%
102 deviants said No !

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:iconheiwatekina:
Only if they force the politicians who shoved this crap down our throat to use the same health care. At least then we'd know they were suffering right along side with us. Damn elitist bastards!!

I elect for no insurance PERIOD!! Any person with a bit of intelligence and some common sense would have the insight to save save save, and that way the money can earn interest. If you ever need it, it's there for you. Giving it to the insurance guys, you'll never see that money again. At least if you save it yourself you can use whatever you don't need for medical bills, for retirement. Statistically, if you take care of your health, you will be at a very low risk of ever needing major medical procedures.

*ahem* sorry, I'll get off my soap box now, lol. Cheers!
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:iconemiko-tion:
~Emiko-tion Mar 31, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
yes!
we have the NHS in the UK and without it i wouldnt be able to get all the support and medicine i need for my Chronic Fatigue Syndrome ^^
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:iconj-krumweed:
!j-krumweed Mar 27, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I like the idea of Universal health care, and what has happened in the US congress is not true universal health care (seeing as 15 million americans were left out of it; when you leave out 5% of the population, it's not really universal). And forcing people to buy insurance from the same industry that has been jacking up rates and denying coverage to sick people is a poor way to compensate the people. What we need NEED NEED NEED is real reform. Meaning the abolition of private insurance companies and the institution of a national health insurance company (like the Medicare in Australia and Canada, and the national health services of Japan, England and France). Single payer is the only way we'll ever be able to obliterate out of control spending on health (the only out of control spending the conservative hypocrites support) and be able to offer help to everyone when it is needed. And the best part? This is not some wacked out unfounded theory! It's been proven! Even Cuba can offer it! And Cuba has less resources then we do! The French Health Care system, entering the 21st century was the top rated health care system in the world, with Japan at number 10, England at 18 and Germany at number 25, while the US lagged behind at a distant 37, just two spaces ahead of Cuba at 39th, with Slovenia behind us at 38 and Costa Rica ahead of us at number 36. COSTA RICA! And all these countries spend less then us! When countries with less resources and money then us are able to get better health care, have a lower infant mortality rate and spend less then us, I think that's time to take notice and think, maybe they and the rest of the industrialized nation is onto something. I know it's scary for some people to think that the USA isn't number one in something but yeah, that is true. I think it's time we get over our irrational fear of a "communist socialist fascist tyranical (tyrannical? what is this? 1787?) evil government takeover" and realize that it's actually a better thing, that maybe the government can actually do something for the benefit of it's people without strings attached, fine print or some sinister plan behind it.

Oh and people in Canada, England, basically other industrialized nations... they live longer. Three years longer on average then most Americans. Cause they just go to the doctor, get the right treatment and are healthier for it. Just a little incentive, you know. :D

(Pardon the length, i was just feeling like a "socialist rant, :giggle:)
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:iconm-a-f:
Idc too many people bitch about it
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:iconchibthemage:
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:iconhitsukuya:
*hitsukuya Mar 24, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
xD !
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:iconokamiryouma:
It works in every single country that has it.
So I'm for it, but...

This isn't universal healthcare.
It's just a mandate to buy it, thus giving off the illusion of it being universal.

Considering the mandate, that you HAVE to buy it, or you'll get fined--- I don't like that part, especially when the only places you can buy it from are for-profit organizations. (who are the whole reason why healthcare is so messed up in the first place)

I liked the original plan of being able to buy insurance through the government, which would make everything so much cheaper...

.. that being said, it's still a good first step that they did here.
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:iconhitsukuya:
*hitsukuya Mar 24, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hopefully the government will be able to introduce a better healthcare bill in the future, though I think for the time being it's pretty much impossible for the Obama administration to convince enough people that increased government regulation is a good thing. I know a lot of Americans are truly concerned about the government 'controlling' their daily lives... it's a bit ridiculous to read some of the comments posted elsewhere on this topic xD
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:iconokamiryouma:
xD Considering a poll came out that says 48% of republicans think Obama is doing "many of the things hitler did", or that 40% of americans believe Obama is a socialist (.. he is nowhere near being that...), I'd almost say it's nearly impossible for Obama to come back to it again and make a point on increased regulation...
He really should though...

I already notice that republicans in general are planning on a strategy, to right before the elections, tell the corporations to increase the price for premiums, and then blame it on the democratic bill...

>w< Well, at the very, very least, it's a first step. It's a bit silly to see america having the 37th ranked best healthcare in the world at the moment.., about time that changed around a bit.
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:iconphkins:
=PHkins Mar 23, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Weird, I was thinking of making the same poll a few days ago. |D I'm one of those who was against it from the start, at least the way Obama went about it. :/ Some of the things in there are good, but see, all the bad things that no one pays attention to are hidden in there and none of those who were promoting it seemed to want to mention any of them.

Like how people will be fined if they don't buy insurance, and how the IRS is going to be interfering in everyone's lives monthly to make sure their insurance is 'government approved'. -.- It's taking away all the freedom of choice, it's them MAKING you buy something even when you don't want it. Which is wrong.

And it's letting the government interfere between you and your doctor as well; they'll get to decide how many tests your doctor can run and which ones, as well as which prescriptions you can be on and everything. If they say no, that's that.

The Health Care system we had before had its flaws, plenty of them, but in my opinion, this wasn't the right bill to fix things at ALL. >3< And with the way they went about doing it, with bribes, threats, and hidden 'special deals'? Just wrong on so many levels. @_@ If the bill was so good for everyone, they should've done it the right way.
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